Top Ten List “How To Get The Google PR Bitch Slap”
10. Linking to a Spam Site
9. Make 20 Niche Blogs and have links for all your 20 blogs on the Blog Roll
8. Have a Disclosure Page where you talk how you write Pay Per Post
7. Write a Post on how Selling Text Links is better then Adsense
6. Have an Advertise Here Page where you start your paragraph my blog is a PR6
5. Use the IZEA forums and write a fuck you Google comment and have your URL on your signature
4. Get one million links using BookmarkingDemon and point them to your index with the keyword “Credit Card”
3. Have a Pay Per Post Banner on Your Site (IZEA)
2. Use Pay Per Post (IZEA)
1. Write a Fuck You Google Post
Folks this might sound stupid or funny but everything that is on that list I have seen. The one million links is a Dumb Fuck friend that really though that would work.
Everyday I am thankful that Google exist and everyday I hope they get bigger. In the days when Yahoo ruled the world the new guy had to wait months to get a site indexed. No folks their where no tricks or cheats to game the system there bot sucked as much as it does today and it could take six months for a small guys site to be indexed. Google brought instant indexing till this day Yahoo will only give instant indexing to the CNN’s and MSNBC’s of this world. To use this site as an example I am right now about 30% organic traffic right now and all of it is Google. I have not had one Ask.com, Live or Yahoo.com search yet.
Think about this the next time you are reading John Chow, Yaro Starak or Problogger telling you to tell Google to go Fuck themselves. Ask yourself who would benefit at the end from such a stupid ass action.
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Hey Vic. In regards to #4, getting the 1 mil links with book marking demon, is there a way to protect our selves from our competitors using it on us? If they want to knock our site down they could just direct 1 mil links to us right? Although I thought that since we can’t control who links to us the big G won’t hold it against us.
Stan I wouldn’t worry about a competitor wasting that much time trying to sabotage you - there are faster and easier ways. Everyone should keep in mind 2 things - if everything you do has the appearance of being natural you have nothing to fear from Google and if you have a legit site and run into problems ask for a review and they will know that some jerk has it in for you.
If you are BHing a site then just take your lumps and move on. In fact if you get into BH then you had better expect a lot of lumps - this is a cut throat business and you had better develop thick skin.
Let’s just hope the US Justice Dept. or FTC doesn’t find a “smoking gun” email at Google to the effect of #’s 8, 7, 5 or 1. I wouldn’t want my investment portfolio hurt by that.
On that subject did you notice that Microsoft is trying to give Google a dose of “what comes around, goes around” in that area. I’d say Microsoft has a few experts on anti-competitive practices on retainer.
Like you, I do like Google the Search Engine. However, I don’t trust Google the Online Advertising Giant very much at all since it reminds me a lot of the dark side of Microsoft (as in “DOS isn’t done until Lotus doesn’t run”). I’m concerned that it may eventually compromise the search engine that we know and love.
Frank I think all these huge companies by definition will always have trouble with the FTC when it comes to takeovers or acquisitions it is what it is but they all seem to get it fix at the end of the day. Google right now is not the big boy in online advertising Yahoo is so as long as Yahoo keeps control Google has no worries about even coming close to a monopoly.
Thanks for posting, Vic. Stumbled it.
This sucks for me, I’ve been approved by PPP and other review companies and I’m really planning to focus on Paid Reviews. Don’t laugh at my question, would it make any difference if I rename disclosure -> disclaimer? I rephrased it a bit and also tried excluding the page using the pagelink manager plugin, but I doubt it’s going to matter.
My other option for monetization is to make a niche blog. I’m reading Griz’s lessons, and I plan to start by the turn of the year.
-Saedel
Saedel their are certain words that some of these companies require to be written that an easy target for a G bot to flag so at the end of the day if they want to fuck with you they will. I have been using Smorty because they do not require and disclosure they are limited to the opportunities so I am only making about $300 a month but it is easy money so no worries.
I just noticed something interesting about a sponsored review I did. When you do a search on the company name or related terms with ‘review’ or some variant of it attached Google returns a ton of blogs who’ve done paid reviews for them. I assume these blog posts would show up if the link was nofollowed or not.
I guess this works for the sponsor sort of like Blogging Zoom and other social bookmarking sites do for blogs. They get a bunch of positions in SERPs that will lead a potential customer right to them. That seems like it would be more valuable than PR to most companies.
Another thing that seems to work is once the reviews are a month old and you’ve been paid for them (very important!), go back and edit them and add “rel=nofollow” to the links. I’ve been doing that with two of mt PR3 blogs and they haven’t been slapped. On one I stopped doing reviews as I didn’t want to lose the PR and as of now all the old review posts have nofollow links, so as the blog now conforms to Google’s rules, in theory I got away with it.
…and one day if they haven’t done it already they’ll have a “…tell Goggle to go fuck itself…” sniffer bot crawling all over the place just waiting for someone to… oh shit too late..! Lucky I can’t typr…
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PPP is a real problem as sooo many people were and still are using it. I went down the D-List yesterday and the first ten PR4 sites in my list are now PR-zip! At least I KNOW I’m in line for a(nother) slap - how many of those poor blinkered bloggers had no idea it was coming?
The funny part about the “go fuck yourself G” brigade is that so many of them held out the white flag and did evrything they were told to do kissing so much ass but they never got their PR back. Who go fuck themselves now Mr Chow?
Terry what really pisst me off about that whole shit was the fact that the so called A-listers where giving bad advice because it was self serving. They where putting their interest above the interest of their readers. I will never tell you to do something and not tell you what problems you will encounter and I will let you decided it the risk is worth it.
Tell me about it - the whole “get Text Link ad and write for PPP” stuff I got it all from Yaro and at the time it made perfect sense - maybe no one knew what was coming, or maybe some did but weren’t letting on.
For Yaro it got him plenty of mugs to sign-up for his entrepreneur program for big bucks - as I’m a cheapskate I didn’t go for it (it pays to be cautious) but loads did and what did they learn? How to fuck their blogs they’d spent months or years building up. Ok, Yaro got fucked too, but with his swelled bank balance I bet it hurt his students a shitload more than it hurt him.
Vic, you’re telling it straight the way it is and that’s why I and all the others are here!
Terry
And what do I see in his free “blogging advice” mailing list recently (it is automated obviously) which he never bothered to clean up and is still propagating shit, asking the reader to monetize their blogs with text links from that well known company.
And another ‘post’ that tells readers to have a great blog design else they suck and not have a cluttered blog but his design (not sure about now as I haven’t been there for awhile) is a class a example in cluttered up blog.
I feel like an idiot reading all that slap shit and then not understanding fully what it means to be in the business of making money and knowing how to leverage on the better partnerships.
I know it’s annoying to lose one’s ranking on google because of their control issues. However I think it has two advantages.
1. It is fresh and updates quickly. Okay the pressure to provide meaningful content isn’t fun but looking at it from the consumers point of view there is nothing worse than landing on pages with flashing banners and nothing relevant to the search. Which brings me to the next point.
2. The average user starts looking for alternate search engine. With others being harder to be indexed on. Since they know the search engine on google attempts to find fresh content and your chances are that you will find meaningful information in the first 10 hits keeps the masses coming back. I know my site is on a page like that. It doesn’t come up in the google search I just checked out who is linked to my site.
I ran a search on a couple of other search engines and a site that made the first 10 (number 3 in fact) The page was 10 years old.
On another search engine I made the mistake of clicking the active link rather than copy and pasting the link underneath. I instead of going to a homestead MSN page I got an offer to download some software of course no was not an answer and it started downloading. Unimpressed I had to run a search to delete the two exe files downloaded at that time.
For all it’s worth Google keeps the playground safe.
Thanks for the post.I learn may more.Happy new year.
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Hi Vic,
As a total noob I have been trying to follow what you, Grizz, and court say. I made my niche blog and got it indexed after four days two days later it was gone.
I did’nt monetize it and I don’t think I keyword stuffed it. Could the word ‘arse’in the post title send me to the sandbox?
Anyway, I’m stuffed for the time being. Which brings me to my question.
When you say set up a blog, put it on auto pilot and move on to your next blog. What do you mean by auto pilot?
I’m sorry if this a dumb arse question, but its all new to me.
Thanks for all your posts - All the best John