Pre-Owned Domains For Survival
By Vic on Dec 9, 2007 in Domains
With out a doubt the way to go is with a Pre-Owned Domain mostly because of the age. If you buy a domain that has been registered for more then 18 months you just guaranteed yourself that you will not be sent to G’s sandbox of hell.
In my old ways it did not matter to me because I would buy usually 50 .info domains at a time and in a week or so they would all be blacklisted anyway but now that I have crossed from the dark side, I have learned how important domain age turns out to be.
Buying pre-owned domain names it can be a brilliant way of gaining traffic without starting from the beginning stages. Many owners do not renew their domain names many of these sites will still attract traffic but the best thing is that if you make a good purchase you might get one with PR already.
The key is making the right purchase sometimes spending $300.00 or more on a pre-owned domain can make a difference from making thousands to making -0-. Some times if you know how to do it right and have the time you can find crazy deals for a pre-owned domain like $5.00 for a PR3 with 5 years of registration.
I will not go into the whole pre-owned domain thing since I am not an expert but I will recommend what I found most useful. I bought three different ebooks to try to understand it and by far to me the best was Domains Into Dollars by a guy named Phil Craig as with most ebooks you will find some fluff but overall it was quite good. It also provides the business side of buying and selling domains so you will also make some extra cash on the side. Now let me be clear I have no idea if this buying and selling domain shit actually works what I wanted was more on how to find really good domains. I will be using some of the techniques on the business side of it and I will later in the future make a post on how well it has worked for me.
If you are one of those cheap bastards that does not invest in there business then you better start spending hours and hours getting as much information as possible on how to find those PR3-4 domains out there to save time and money.
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This is one of those lessons I really hope people get. I just got bit on the ass because of this so it would be beneficial for the community to learn from my mistakes.
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Vic,
I have to say you opened my eyes to more then a couple things and I think I found one of my new favorite blogs. Altough, many people think I am running a “make money online” blog I have mentioned this isn’t the case because I don’t make much money from it. I know your feeling about this type of niche and I have to say I was suckered in reading the same type of blogs. I look forward to learning your methods because I am very opened minded when it comes to making money online.
Where is the best place to find pre-owned domains?
Hi Michael,
I do not want to get in trouble here cause I just started with this pre-owned domain thing so I am sure peeps that do this for a living do it better than me. But right now the best deals I have found have been at GoDaddy auctions. I bought two domains today one PR5 I paid $120.00 and I bought a PR4 I paid $5.00 plus of course 8.99 each for registration. But I am sure that there are better places. It is really time consuming at GoDaddy it took me almost 3 hours of looking and making research for each domain.
The ebook I plug in the post mentions also a few more especially Sedo but shit I do not see myself paying over 1k for a domain.
I hope this helps. There is a really good blog that deals with this. At the end of the day this is new to me but Mark at DotSauce is really good and he answers all kinds of questions. Do not miss this post which is a resource list http://www.dotsauce.com/buy-domains/
Good Luck tell me how it goes.
Vic,
I bought the ebook you plugged and got some good info. After reading your posts I know its a must to buy a pre-owned domain because of its age but why are you buying PR5 and PR4 domains when Google sets the PR back to 0 when a domain expires?
I don’t know much about domains but I started researching after reading your posts and multiple sites talked about the PR going to 0.
Looking forward to watching you develop the 2 niche domains you’ll be releasing today.
Stan remember I am new to this so I do not know if this is a glitch or what and if some one is an expert on this and can explain please do. This is the deal at there is the time when you can re-register the domain and there is the time that the registrar deletes the domain I think this is where the PR gets sent to 0 in my case I have only bought domains from GoDaddy and they are expired not deleted. I look at each domain I verify the whois what it was used for the last thing I want to do is buy a domain that has 100 link farms pointing to it and if it still has PR up to now I have bought 12 domains with PR I have taken ownership of 5 and they all still have kept there PR the highest a PR4 the PR5 I bought yesterday I take ownership in 5 days. The two domains that I bough for the Blog Contest that I will be giving away one is a PR2 solid I looked at the links and the other is a PR2 again solid the lst was used by a writer who sold horror book so OMG it has like really really solid links with solid PR. I bought a domain that actually has links from the State of Virginia lol and it is 5 years olds imagine how much authority this domain has.
I hope the ebook gave you good info it provided for me just valuable info because I feel ashame to say it but I was clueless when it came to buying and selling domains. This ebook just opened my eyes to a bunch of things I had never really though of. Again as I said in the post it has some fluff all ebooks do but over all of the three ebooks I bough by far it was the best.
Stan check this one out I was looking to get it but it is up to $180 so i do not know if I will bid it is a solid PR5 serialpost.com Created on: 09-Nov-04 Expires on: 09-Nov-07 So it is a solid PR5 with 3 years I am really really thinking of it but I think i would go max 250 on it.
I got confused and thought you got your PR domains by looking at justdropped.com which was described in the ebook. Makes sense that PR would be fine if you are just re registering a domain with godaddy auctions.
I see serialpost.com is going still at $180 with 10 minutes left. I’ll be researching and browsing godaddy auctions all day hoping to find some gold.
Stan I do juts like the book said I also look at Sedo but at justdropped.com I have not found a good name for my uses and in Sedo just way out of my investment range. Stan make sure you look at the close out those are the ones that are $5.00 and if you buy 5 you save a buck each. Do not pay attention to the traffic stats I have seen people bidding 1900 on a domin that says it has 6578 in traffic but that traffic is direct it does not say where from then when you check the domain is blacklisted for spam but yet I have found 0 traffic with a solid PR3
By doing just what the book says are you referring to 1st part about using Adwords keyword tool to get a big list of keywords then go to Godaddys bulk register to see which names are available?
Unless I overlooked it I didn’t see much info on how to use tdnam.com to find domains.
Right now I’m just putting niche keywords into tdnam.com and manually checking up on the PR and back links. Is that what you are doing?
Stan I just emailed you.
Wow Vic! Thanks! I was too cheap to go buy the ebook, but from what I gleaned from reading the your posts and the comments I was able to grab a four year old PR4 domain for $5 (assuming the former owner doesn’t claim it before the 23rd. I also grabbed some nice aged PR3 domains for $5 each too.
I’m one of the idiots that registered a lot of new names and many of them are now sandboxed. Now thanks to you I know better. I never imagined I could get names with PR that cheap. It takes time to wade through them and check them, but that was a half day well spent.
Hey Lee,
Do not get down on yourself I am in the idiot bandwagon for the new domains. But I just my strategy. If I see a domain name that would be just profitable down the line I still buy it but instead of spending time developing it I will just thrown a BANS site on there and move on to Pre-owned domains for development. One the new domains are aged I will either fully develop or re-sell for profit.
Sorry for being a newbie, but what is the meaning of “in the sandbox”.
I have a few domains that I just park at Sedo because I have no time to develop it. I have read very good reviews on BANS but I got rejected for the eBay affiliated program, so is it still worth it?
Hi, sandbox is a term started years back to an effect that happens to new sites. Google has never acknowledge neither the term or the effect. But it is what it is. What happens to a site that gets place in sandbox is that you are in SERPS and then suddenly for what you understand no reason you disappear from the SERPS. Personally I have never found a way to pull yourself from sandbox. This is used to try to control spam sites. In time you will be taken out.
Hey, do you think using a sub-domain on an established site would work if you have the keyword as the sub?
Desty lately G has not reacted as before when it comes to subdomains especially since many spammers are using that same technique. If it is an aged domain with some good authority you should be fine if it is a brand new domain say hello to the box.
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Vic,
What would you do? I found a really cool niche I want to attack but I’m having a heck of a time finding a pre-owned domain that’s 18 months old or more.
All of the top 10 sites in Google for this niche are only 2 & 3 pageranks with less than 500,000 competing sites.
I was even tempted to use a pre-owned domain I purchased that’s over 2 years old, has a few nice backlinks and a lot of pages indexed already. The only issue is the domain name isn’t related to the niche. It’s a news.com related domain name. Like breakingnews.com.
I’m thinking if I use this domain it might hurt my CTR in the SERPS.
What do you think?
Thanks
Jimmy jump on it like their is no tomorrow. Remember it is great to have a branded domain but worst case scenario think about this when was the last time you made a search and wikipedia was position one yet the name has nothing to do with the search term just the permalink so work it exactly like that.
Vic,
Happy New Year!
How can I get Google to update the site description for my site now that its hosted on the pre-owned domain I recently purchased?
When I check to see if my new pages are getting indexed (and they are quickly) I still notice the godaddy parking page is still listed whenever I check for a cached date.
My sub pages are updated with my new posts but its the main domain/homepage that’s my concern.
Jimmy get as many links as possible for the index it usually takes a few day and sometimes you will actually see your main page indexed twice one with the parking page and the second with your real new content.
Hi This is I know a question they may make you beat yourself wondering why you bother, but when your looking at go-daddy and purchasing an old site, where can you see the page rankings that it had. It may be that I have just been checking out sites that have none.
Cheers
If it is a site that isn’t expired you can just install the google toolbar and visit that url and it will show if it has a PR or not.
Or, you could go here and enter in the url:
http://www.prchecker.info/check_page_rank.php
If it is a site that isn’t expired you can just install the google toolbar and visit that url and it will show if it has a PR or not.
Or, you could go here:
http://www.prchecker.info/check_page_rank.php
Sorry Vic you can delete one of those above, the first time I tried posting I got an error but I guess it still went through.
Yea I have the google toolbar. It was just when looking at some the sites for sale on go-daddy they just had holding pages by go-daddy. So I was wondering if that kills any page ranking that it held. I may just have been looking at the wrong ones. I’m dying of the flu so I blame the fever
Yea I have the google toolbar. It was just when looking at some the sites for sale on go-daddy they just had holding pages by go-daddy. So I was wondering if that kills any page ranking that it held. I may just have been looking at the wrong ones. I’m dying of the flu so I blame the fever.
sorry about the double post. Got a massive error all over the screen when I did the first one. I just hit back button and clicked post again. Then saw 2 posts. Bloody computers. Delete away
No prob guys just having serious issues with Super-Cahe