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Hello,
Where do you get your content from for the BANS site. Is it scraped, handwritten, or do you use a tool. I asked because in studying paintballzoom some of the content is jumbled together.
I have a markov engine that pulls related keyword content from Google and makes me a small markov but you can do this manually my engine cost $800 and it is really not need it.
Great - Great - Great video. Did I mention GREAT? When you lean forward and make a face to the camera, that is a classic!
Vic - you gotta get a short sledge hammer. Hold the hammer while your making the video. Keep hammering it into us. This must be boring as all hell for you.
Gotta go, going to godaddy. Everybody else stay away until Friday. Thank You! Ha Ha!!!
LMAO some times I catch myself saying OMG not that question again for the 500th time LMAO but then I remember that we where all new once and sometimes it is just overwhelming all the information so I will keep saying it over until we are all singing the same song
Vic
I purchased BANS today and signed up to be an ebay affiliate last week. When i go to the programs tab it says that I am under review for the US and a couple other markets. It has been under review for 5 business days. I am assuming that bugging them by email is the best course of action.
Pierce
And of course keeping all our fingers crossed that they get their act together cuz right now it seems that they have been overwhelmed with all the transfers. Where you an Ebay CJ affiliate before?
No I wasn’t. I just started getting serious about making money online about a month ago.
They approved me for EbayES and EbaySG. The commissions on them kind of blow. I was also declined for the majority of the others. I find this really weird considering that I am in the US.
Pierce when you say approved with CJ or the new EPN?
I was finally approved for the US!
SWEET
AWESOME BUDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I signed up for EPN. I wasn’t doing Internet Marketing when CJ was handling Ebay. I am going to keep making the sites and hope that they approve me for the US. I really wish they had a number to call.
Vic - I’m devouring the information on your site. My question is, whether it’s a bad idea to set up multiple BANS sites on sub-domains?
If you’ve already touched on this, don’t worry about it, I’ll find it. Thanks!
Anthony, it is best to target a specific subject on a specific domain, but it will not hurt to do subdomain bans. i however for one dont like the idea. If you have a domain delegated for a keyword then i say stick to that, even though Google treats the subdomains a little differently than it use too.
The problem is that G already knows that BHatters use this technique a lot. I would recommend you look at the last 4 comment videos in one of them I address this question mmm I forgot which LMAO
Thanks Vic, and I will go back through them.
Thanks Justin. My idea is for a keyword targeted domain, with more specific sub-domains within the larger/broader category, but it may not be such a great idea…
Anthony,
I have a couple of keyword sites that I am using Adsense on. I also have one subdomain that is a BANS site for that individual site.
What I have been doing is going back into my individual posts, taking related keywords from posts that relate to specific topics or products in my BANS subdomain and point them there.
I have had pretty good success with this so far. I have had several eBay signups, and quite a few sales.
Now, this might now work for each MFA/BANS site that you create, but it could be an option.
I figure that it is worth a shot and if it doesn’t work out, just delete the BANS subdomain and either focus on keywords/wordpress site or install BANS to the main domain.
Elliott
Cool! That’s very similar to what I had in mind. I have this domain with Wordpress set up on it. My plans were to make it a directory of multiple BANS sites that would be sub-domains….actually already have a few BANS sites set up as sub-domains for it. Glad to hear you’re having some success with similar set-up. I may go ahead and finish up my original plan, and continue building BANS on top-level domains as well.
Anthony,
Just remember that you don’t want to give your visitors too many options to click out. You either want them to click on adsense, affiliate ads or a BANS link.
As for multiple BANS, I guess it would work, but I would really focus each one for one particular product. I guess it depends on what niche you are targeting and how many products eBay has for it.
Contact me through my site contact form if you need further help or anything.
This video is great. It was a nice slap on the head for me as I was getting caught up in keyword stuffing the domain with the literal keyword phrases. I will keep the “think Wikipedia” in the back of my mind now as I purchase more domains.
As always, thank you Vic!
It happens to all of us the best option is to find one with the keyword but not finding one should not be a deal breaker also remember lets say you are working the keyword “Gucci Wallets” you might not find a good domain with those keywords but you might find walletsgalore.info not the whole keyword but still related.
I have about 20 .com domains and I just purchased 35 .info domains. I also got the hostgator reseller account. As soon as the DNS propagates I’ll start building stores.
It looks like I’ve got a lot of work ahead of me. I may go back later and pick up some more .info domains. Hopefully I’ll have some results to report pretty soon.
I’m looking forward to your keyword research video. I have keyword elite and I’ve watched all of the videos. But I think I need to go back through some of them.
Emma the important thing is to get the sites up with 3 keywords as best as you can and start getting links once I get you folks totally in tune to keywords you can go back and add better keywords and fix what ever needs fixing
Vic,
Can you explain why to use a reseller account over a shared hosting account?
I have seen a lot of discussions about it, but not sure why to do it.
Does a reseller account give you different IP addresses like a VPS or Dedicated server? I am using HostMonster and they give unlimited domains (except for the 100 MySQL limit).
Buddy I already did in past videos but wait till tomorrows video and I will explain in better detail
Crap, guess you’re just posting to many damn videos!
STOP IT!!!!
Information overload!
lmao
Hello again
Well, to explain more about making my investment money back in less than a week:
I created my first BANS site on a PR2 domain I had lying around just collecting dust…so I guess I kinda got a headstart on indexing and SERPS compared to starting BANS on new .info domains. I now realize aged domains are the way to go, but I haven’t the least idea on how to snipe domains or where to go to buy them.
Anyway, my BANS site got indexed quickly and started receiving a decent amount of organic traffic everyday from the get-go. One day I’ll make 38 cents, another day maybe 45 cents, and then bam!!! I’ll make $80…I’m hooked on BANS!
I’m still setting up my .info domains and doing keyword stuffing and linkbuilding. No traffic yet for my .info BANS sites, but I’ll just be patient, follow your formula, and wait for results to kick in later.
Pre-owned domains are so powerful I wished people would get a better grasp on that. Nothing better then getting a 10 year old sweet domain LMAO
Vic,
Does that domain still need to be indexed? Or is it still a lot better just because it is aged?
If I find an aged domain that is sweet and let’s say 4 or mor years I do not even care if it has been used for spam I will get it and once I clean uop the image and all the old shit gets de-indexed I get auithority so to me it does not matter I will take the age even if I spend a month trying to get it indexed.
Great insight!
Yep, used and good quality keyword focused domains work great for BANS sites, given that their names are related to the BANS site keywords that you are building.
I have been setting up .info domain names for BANS, and some have gotten traffic on day 1, others, still nothing.
I think a lot of it just depends on the keywords you are targeting. Of course, the less competition you are encountering and the longer tail keywords you have, the better.
For example, one .info domain I set up hasn’t gotten one hit for the targeted keyword yet. However, I have made over $20 on it in commissions because of the google indexing that items listed have given me.
BANS ROCKS!
I so much love BANS if not for the fact that we must always have multiple income streams all I would work would be BANS LMAO
Buddy I need to talk to you I have monitored Skype but have not seen you online.
Should be on tomorrow afternoon sometime…tough week going up here, we lost 2 firefighters in a fire Friday…
Our heats and prayers go to the families of your fallen comrades as with you and your family. We also pray to keep you and your buddies safe. I look forward to chatting. Again bless you for what you do for your community.
Great video. I’m buying BANS and my domains RIGHT NOW.
One of the best investments you will ever make on your online business
Vic,
So by my calculations you need around $250 to get going with Bans.
$97 - Bans
$100 - 100 info domains
$50 - 2 months cost for resellers account
Guess I need to kick some ass with Adsense.
The important thing is to start with what you can one domain is better then 0
Denise,
I agree with Vic, just get started with what you can. I have several (about 20) BANS sites right now on a shared hosting account. I have had no problems.
What I have been doing is as I make some money with my sites and get paid, I have been taking about 1/2 of it and reinvesting in domains, both used and new .info.
It just takes time to get built up, and patience!
Vic,
Success! My first Bans store had a $32 day yesterday after just 3 days. Looks like most of the traffic came from a few of my highly targeted squidoo lenses on a related topic.
You mentioned in one of your earlier posts that you were testing the conversion rates of the full store set up vs. the plain template. Any insights?
If a plain template will convert at about the same rate as a full set up, I won’t waste much effort until all my domains are up and promoted.
Thanks again for the great info!
Awesome traffic redirect that is just awesome. I will look at the stats tomorrow and in a comment video give you my results
I’m seeing the real need for link farms. They put cash in your pocket overnight. I’m stoked!
Now for the next 99, well 299 stores or so.
I know link farms are just shady and un-ethical but hey the facts are the facts and in what we do it is just a huge need to have easy accessible options to get anchored links nd one of these are our link farms.
Vic, can you point to a resource for more info on setting up link farms or am I over thinking this as you say? Should I set up blogger blogs and put in content and use them as they get authority?
Mel just setup Squdoo pages and like 20 or 30 blogger blogs now these you need to nurture and stay under the radar also bookmaek and comment to get links for that farm now once you have them aged and with some PR you will see how valuable they will become but if you look at my inlink video I talk a bit more about farms.
Thanks Vic
Do you worry about “trademark” issues when buying domains? I mean if someone did set up a domain like RachaelRayCookBooks dot com, wouldn’t Rachael Ray be able to steal the domain away if it became successful?
Rhonda
I will make a deeper explanation on tomorrows video
Folks pls chck out this post unfortunately it did not get tracked back so here is the link.
http://optempo.com/2008/04/07/.....mment-1654
Thanks Vic,
I think that either my trackbacks are being Akismet’ed or else trackbacks aren’t working right from OpTempo for some other reason.
Anyway, I hope the info in the article is useful in selecting categories for BANS. It’s kind of the reverse of looking for underserved niches when you’re selling on eBay.
One thing I forgot to mention in my article was something you want to avoid and that would be categories overrun with people trying to selling SMC and other overpriced dropshipped goods. It’s the equivalent of the “make money online” niche on eBay. Nothing sells and people are loosing money.
The SMC thing is a real big deal I will sure mention it also on video.
waiting tomorrows video
I have a number of questions for you Vic, I just got the hostgator reseller account and have been buying a bunch of .info domains like you said.
Do you create multiple accounts within your reseller account? I can imagine that after accumulating several hundred domains it can get a bit confusing having them all listed under one account. Especially when you have to create sql databases for each BANS site.
Also, what settings (ie disk space and bandwidth) do you use for your accounts in the reseller a/c? I want to make sure I don’t assign myself too little.
Oh and also, whenever you get around to talking about OpenX, can you tell me what the heck they mean by changing the server time? It says I’ve to change it to London, England but I don’t understand why. Also do you need to install OpenX for each domain or can you do everything you need with just the one installation?
I also just want to thank you for all your great advice and I will certainly send you a testimonial
Geezzz April LMAO I will answer this on the comment video really good questions.
Hi Vic,
I am gonna go straight to the point.
Is it worth getting the Swamp hosting instead of the Reseller? Its about $12 less and still has unlimited domains. Does anyone know?
Gus the problem is how hosting companies tread shared accounts with unlimited domains if one of your sites gets spiked traffic and gets in trouble because of resources because unlimited shared hosting accounts it is all really folders all your sites would also be in trouble in a reseller account they are all separate accounts so if one gets in trouble it will not affect the rest of the sites.
But at the end of the day Gus if you do not have the money for a reseller account then it is what it is but if you can stretch the extra few dollars get the reseller the last thing you want is to built 30 sites and wake up one morning and all of them are suspended because of one site.
Vic, I made a living buying and selling with EBay at one point, when you start to understand how people search eBay this process is really a no brainer, I was trying to fine domains with PR which is a bit harder although I did pick one up this morning for 10.00, I may do a post on ebay searching soon.
That would really be helpful for us that are Ebay challenged it will be welcomed info
Hi Vic, once again cool vid. Quick question: What kind of converstion ratio are you hitting on your bans sites on average?
Thanks Paul
Stupid stupid CVR sometimes over 50% again just stupid CVR
What’s killing me right now is that my new .info sites aren’t indexing. I’ve tagged them with a couple of scuttle runs and the older ones (2 weeks old this upcomming weekend) still aren’t in google or yahoo, beyond the furl and other BMD bookmarks.
Have done commenting, article submissions and directory submissions?
That’s where your “so now what” has helped me so much. Up until yesterday, I had been making the sites, but only slowly working on getting links to the 1st site. I still have 2 more domains to make sites for, but I need to move forward to get links for every site.
Just build and no looking back get the links and go build the next one they will get indexed when they will get indexed it is what it is the important think is once all the links get counted you start making money
Vic, do you have a target keyword density that you would recommend for a bans site?
Vic, How did you get the words “time left” off your Paintball site? I can not find a option on the bans version I have for that. When I look up the keyword density for my bans site “time left” is the most dense phrase on the page…
Mel,
On the “Settings” tab in BANS, scroll down and there is an option on what to show, like Paypal button, Time, Bids, etc.
Just uncheck it and you should be good. This is for at least version 3, I don’t remember earlier versions.
Thanks I will give that a try…
Vic, Found the answer to this one. it is in altering the index file from the bans script. I think I will leave that one alone… thanks
Hi Vic, how do you optimize keywords that has quote in them?
example: 42″ monitor
should i use 42″ monitor or 42 monitor
as anchored link?
i found that both will return the same result in
google and all keyword list will filter off the “
Just work the number
Does the domain extension have a say in SERPS or getting indexed? I found a great domain and I can totally control (no one has anything on it). From a $$$ standpoint, I just want to get the .info, but am willing to shell out for the .com or .net if it would get me better results.
Could you explain what you mean by the extension cuz I do not know if you mean .com .info etc… or do you mean the name vs the niche.
Sorry, in extension I mean .com .net .org .info etc.
Desty,
I think Vic will back me here on this…
If you can afford the .com name, that is best. .info names are kinda flagged automatically by Google as potential spam sites due to how low they cost. Google keeps a pretty good eye on them.
HOWEVER, if you are creating a legit .info site, especially BANS as I have, you should be ok with a .info.
I have been using .info for BANS sites andhave a few on page 1 of Google SERPS for some of the longtail keywords.
As for the sandbox, you should be fine there as well unless you start getting like 500 hits a day or something.
It’s not so much can’t afford the .com, just that with the current sale, 1 .com costs the same as 9 .info’s. Just trying to get the most bang for my buck
Vic,
You may have touched on this and I just missed it in your videos and I am sorry if you have to repeat.
I understand the idea of targeting the 3 keywords for our BANS sites right now. The problem I am having is the site I just set up has quite a few pages (large category like your paintball store). Do I try and do BMD runs and get links for all the pages or just the first set of sub-categories? (on your paintball site “Air Systems, Barrels, Gear Bags, ect”)
I may be over thinking this, but I don’t want to waste a ton of time if I don’t have to get links to every single page.
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Wohoo!! broke down and bought BANS, have my 1st site up and running. doesnt look pretty yet but will work on that later. Man that was easy I should have bought this months ago.
No need to be pretty just with many inlinks
I’m stoked Vic! 2 minutes to get ebay approved from application to emailed approval. I’m off to build my first 40 BANS.
The new approval system is way quicler then CJ but man many people are having problems getting approved.
Hi, Vic, I have my own domain, but cannot afford to buy any more at this time - the life of a student ain’t easy. I’ve been saving up to get BANS for a while and finally purchased it today. I have a question for you: would it be better to save up more money (which would take quite a while) until I have enough to buy a few .info domains, or can I get away with setting up stores as subdomains of my current main and then transferring them over to .info domains when I am able?
Liza if you are broke it is what it is. Start building subdomains but re-invest your profit into more and more domains and also promotion tools.
BTW I do not see you in my contest why? This would be perfect for you since you have not worry about hosting or anything like that that can cost you money.
I actually JUST sent you an e-mail through your contact form with my entry
Thanks a lot for replying to my question!
Made 4 BANS sites 3 days one sale 2.94 before any sites were fully indexed. I’m thrilled. Thanks for the advice VIC
Just keep getting them anchors and keep building it is crazy how it starts to add up
Just found your blog recently, and have been trying to learn and put as much into action as possible. I have my hundred domains and, and am working through getting sites up as quickly as possible. I’m using phpBay Pro for Wordpress with some special scripts I set up to make sites quickly (I already owned the script, and this has a few SEO advantages over BANS from what I understand).
However, I’m beginning to realize that getting all these linked and indexed will be interesting. I’m afraid that mass social bookmarking a bunch of these sites at once will get me banned, and that traditional directory/comment/article link building is going to take forever. Also, since I’m building so fast, I don’t have much original content on the sites yet.
My strategy at the moment is to drop just enough links to get the site indexed, and just keep moving on. Then, once I start getting traffic, I’ll focus on linkbuilding and writing content the most profitable sites. Is this a good approach? Thanks so much for doing this, you’re one of the most informative, useful make money online bloggers out there.
phpBay Pro sucks compare to BANS and I do not recommend it as such I really do not have much to say. Your assumption on getting banned is wrong as for the things that take forever you have to do it if not you will starve. If you have taken the time to read my post and see my videos you know I never said this is easy and there is no magic fucking bullet.
Oh, I’m ready to put in the work (and have been thus far). Good to hear that I won’t get banned, I guess I’ll start up with the social bookmarking then.
Why does phpBay Pro suck compared to BANS? I’m willing to save up and buy BANS if its a superior product, I’m just curious why.
Vic,
I was referred here by someone else and I like your style
Very colorful in your approach, but definitely motivating! Awesome 
(I just can’t watch that again with my son in the room, lol)
Jenn yes we are rated M LMAO!!!!! At lest you should no my kids are not remotely close to my office when I record LMAO!!!
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Does anybody have all 100 done yet? I just got number 50 done this afternoon and I feel like I’m behind!
- Thom
How many days have you been at it?
I bought my first batch of domains and my hosting account on the 7th. I spent most of the day the 8th getting the hosting and BANS figured out then started in earnest on the 9th. Took yesterday off to work on some of the blogs so…really working at it…3 or 4 days.
No then I think you are doing awesome that means that in 7 to 10 days you will have all sites up shit that is so fucking cool make sure you keep working links
LOL, Thanks man, I hope so! I’m using the Vic method right now…setting up BANS sites on one pc, scuttle runs on another, legit runs on the third!
I’m also not spending a huge amount of time on each site. Just up and running with keywords and basic paragraphs on each store page. My plan is to get them all up and running then cycle back through and fluff up the content with more long tails etc.
Oh, and not even looking at any stats yet! That’s a break-thru for me!
LMAO remember SAA or Stats Addicts Anonymous says you must take one day at a time
When making a foreign focused BANS site, is it best to stick to the normal domains (.com, .net, .info, etc) or go for that country’s domain (co.uk, co.cn, co.nz etc)?
No doubt would you get more authority if you buy the country code but then again as always the same basic rules apply enough links overcomes all especially taking into consideration how expensive some of these extensions are.
Coolness. Maybe in the future with some ebay cash, I’ll get some of those foreign domains, but for right now I’ll stick with .info’s.
Now if I could only find a way to do translations and open up some neat foreign markets
Shoot just use Google translator it does not have to be perfect
I cant get this vid to play for some reason. All your other vids on the blog work fine. This one freezes up right after it starts.
Greg that is so weird. Please could you try the direct link and see if at Revver it gets fixed if not please let me know to see what I can do.
http://revver.com/video/796070/100-bans-sites/
Vic,
It’s working for me now here and at Revver. Must have been a temporary thing last night ( I asked a couple friends on IM to check and they had same problem). it’s fine now.
Thanks for letting me know Revver some times seems to have some hiccups LMAO!!!
hey Vic,
I have two questions,
when setting up a site or bans in diferent language, I find that it is difficult to locate as many directories and bookmarking sites that accept other languages. It almost puts Bookmarking demon and all the other tools out of the game. I have a big issue with Greek. I have a few Greek sites set up but no links…amazingly I still get traffic from longtails in the text. I could use a bit more traffic though…are you aware of any solutions?
and about bans,
Do you know of any free, unique content creation tool? I find that the biggest pain in the ass is to write those two paragraphs for every bans page. It really takes up generous chuncks of my time. I am sure others can relate.
thanks man, hope you feeling better!
Gus Bookmarking demon is not language based so it does not matter for article directories write them in english and anchor the keyword in the language you are working and site directories you have over 150 the the submission is in english but the site can be in any language supplement with comments in other words the los of sites because of language comment more.
For the BANS content tool I am still beta testing for the developer I look forward to having it ready for this week for you folks it is a huge time saver
I’ve got 1 non-US BANS site set-up and made a sale within a week. I’ve got 1-2 more in development (keyword research don’t cha know). The problem I have is that UK and Australia eBay affiliate are the only non-US programs that pay for existing traffic. The other programs pay for sign-ups, and nothing else; if someone who is already signed up with ebay goes through your site to buy something, you get zip, atleast as far as I can see…
That would be amazing Vic. Thank you!
Vic,
Been reading the site for about 2 weeks, front to back. Here is where I am at:
-Acquired 100 Long-Tail Keyword Domain names (.info) from Godaddy.
-Acquired Hosting from Hostgator for unlimited domains
-Acquired BANS software
-Acquired Bookmarking Demon
-Created my first BANS store at http://antiqueoakfurniture.info
-Created 50 backlinks
-Posted Adsense temporarily(to get indexed faster)
-Submitted site to search engines
-Submitted Sitemap to Google
-Scuttled 3 times
-Submitted once
That was all in the last week.
What I am doing now:
-Creating addon domains in cpanel for all 100 sites, so that they can propagate
-uploading BANS to propagated domains
Two questions:
1. In your BMD tutorial you discuss hiding links. What does this mean exactly?
2. Have I forgotten anything?
The plan is to get all domains functional with at least a hompage of e-bay product, then start working backlinks weekly until I have 5-9k for each. Then, I will start working content for each store.
Thank you for all you have done Vic. Awesome job.
-Joshua
-Posted Adsense temporarily(to get indexed faster) NOT GOOD IDEA!!!
Submitted site to search engines NEVER DO THAT!!!!
-Submitted Sitemap to Google Be careful Footprint
-Creating addon domains in cpanel for all 100 sites, so that they can propagate
-uploading BANS to propagated domains BAD IDEA!!!
1. In your BMD tutorial you discuss hiding links. What does this mean exactly? Explained it over 50 times keep looking at the videos and read the comments
Keep building great job