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  1. Justin Briggs on 26.05.2008 at 03:59 (Reply)

    I’m curious about post quality. I know your stance is to not answer the person’s question and to make a lower quality post. That way they click out, higher ctr, etc.
    But, Court’s take on it is to use quality content because you risk your Adsense.
    http://courtneytuttle.com/2008.....-mistakes/

    Shit content is fine to me, but I’m branding my name. Say if I were to win, I don’t want to have my blog scream MFA and then get publicity on it when its branded for my real name. Then some Google engineer comes and slaps around my Adsense.

    And I’m not sure about others, but the reason I’ve made posts wasn’t for $$ yet (because I just got my ads), but I needed additional pages to get links for. 2000+ links to the index looks shady if you have 1 post.

    1. Vic on 26.05.2008 at 13:00 (Reply)

      Justin I have not made one contest tutorial video yet so exactly what will be done or taught has not been said. In other words why assume anything right now when you see the videos you will know.

  2. Tuppy Glossop on 26.05.2008 at 05:09 (Reply)

    If we’re outside the US, will be able to see either AdSense or PepperJam ads?

    My blog’s finished, but I’m not seeing any ads … not sure if it’s because of geo-targeting, or because even if I come in via Google I’ve already been cookied as a previous visitor.

    1. Vic on 26.05.2008 at 13:02 (Reply)

      Let’s wait till you folks see the first video so you know how to really test.

  3. Frank C on 26.05.2008 at 14:41 (Reply)

    A general question on linking if you don’t mind Vic.

    I understand what you mean about external linking but, general, how much and what types of internal linking do you find optimum? For example, category list, tag clouds, most recent posts, etc.

    Thanks…

    1. Vic on 26.05.2008 at 15:50 (Reply)

      On side bars I have no problem but cross linking to a post inside a post I would only do it if it is a big long post and I can put the link at the bottom at the end, the last thing I want is some one that first comes in to click out to another of my post and I just lost the adsense click.

      1. Tim on 26.05.2008 at 16:36 (Reply)

        Thanks that makes since. I had to correct my blog already, lol Guess that’s what this contest is all about learning what works and why.

  4. Chris Digital Products on 26.05.2008 at 19:30 (Reply)

    Vic, I sent you the email hopefully with the correct pepperjam codes this time. Geez, I’m totally lost at pepperjam. Live and learn.

  5. Monika Mundell on 27.05.2008 at 02:54 (Reply)

    Vic I couldn’t watch that last video of yours with the final notes. It just presented a blank pic to me and I don’t know why that is as before I never had any issues.

    Right now I’m totally lost with what’s going on as most of the time when you do your shows I’m working my business (it’s the only times I have) and I also haven’t seen an email from you. I guess you will send them out staggered and I hope to catch up with what I need to know.

  6. Frank C on 28.05.2008 at 00:01 (Reply)

    Hmmm…..

    07:51 SEOZombie : fryi, if you leave a comment on my blog anchoring my own keywords as your name to a post on your site about the same thing, I’m going to delete your URL
    07:51 SEOZombie : i’ve had a few do it
    07:51 SEOZombie : because, then I’d be passing link authority to you for my own keyword
    07:52 SEOZombie : i hope that doesn’t anyone off, so I thought I’d let you know, feel free to drop links to your personal site

    1. Justin Briggs on 28.05.2008 at 03:46 (Reply)

      Yeah, people shouldn’t mirror my keywords and expect me to give them a free link off my site. Not to be an ass, but its bad SEO.

      Any smart SEO knows not to link out with the keywords you’re targeting to another site (especially competition). You don’t want to leak your authority for that keyword.

      Like Vic doesn’t link to Griz using Make Money Online. It would effect his authority for the keyword.

      Someone is allowed to target the same keywords as me, thats fine, but I don’t have to help them rank for it.

      I’m a helpful guy and I’ll help anyone with building links. But at the end of the day this is a competition and if you’re going to try and rank for the same keywords, just don’t link drop that post on my blog.

      Anyways, they should be going to get real links instead of links from subdomains on the same site. I’m not interested in interlinking my competition blog with 80+ other subdomains on the same site (unless Vic says to). Also, I’ve been working my ass off getting links. This other person had like 35. He’s being lazy. With only 35 links, he needs to focus on getting links from other related sites instead of blogs on the same IP.

      Maybe I’m completely wrong. I’ll just wait until we get our video.

      1. Frank C on 28.05.2008 at 04:04 (Reply)

        Justin,

        I could see it getting really ugly, really quick, like it did with Griz’s Asia’h competition. People reporting other people’s sites, Akismeting them and doing other sorts of underhanded tricks. I hope that Vic does address this because I would hate to see things get nasty over it.

        I think you do have a good point about cross-linking the sites but your comments in the chat, well, came across as rather antagonistic.

      2. Vinny Lingo on 28.05.2008 at 06:48 (Reply)

        I’m not interested in interlinking my competition blog with 80+ other subdomains on the same site (unless Vic says to).

        If that’s the case, why are you linking to posts on your contest blog when commenting here? Aren’t you contributing to the very action you wish to deter?

        Might also avoid using phrases such as “any smart SEO knows…” That’s just veiled ad hominem and totally unnecessary. You certainly left a lengthy reply to what was more or less a quote of something you said. There was no context given.

        Frank seems to have been looking for clarification on deleting or editing comments or sending them to Akismet. That is something I would like clarified as well. I think we can all participate in open, amicable discourse without resorting to lashing out at anyone else.

        (In other words, don’t be so defensive)

        1. Justin Briggs on 28.05.2008 at 14:12 (Reply)

          There is a difference b/t the main index pointing to me and me pointing to 80+ other subdomains. Subdomains are treated as separate “spaces” on the net. In my quote I said “subdomains”, I didn’t say “the domain”. Someone’s competition blog and Vic’s blog are not seen as the “same site” by Google. Vic’s site has authority… the competition blogs that are showing up with nothing but bookmarking spam links are not authority sites yet.

          Also, Vic said a while back there will be a contest page, so he’s going to be link to me anyways. An incoming link from Vic is different than a outgoing link from me to other sites.

          Lastly, a Nofollow link anchored for my name is very different than interlinking with dofollows and anchored keywords.

          Its wordy, but that should answer your question. Also, this video is useful:
          http://www.seomoz.org/blog/whi.....e-is-loose

          And what I said is far from being ad hominem imo. I addressed the issue and explained it, and didn’t simply attack the person. And I’m not attacking Frank, but talking in general terms. I can explain my point well no matter who its against.

          My frustration is not at Frank, he’s a cool guy, but with people concerning themselves too much with what others are doing. My comment wasn’t really directed just at frank, but was in general.

          But if I’m coming off as an ass, it isn’t intended. Being the net, I’m restricted to trying to express myself as best as I can via text.

          1. Frank C on 28.05.2008 at 14:32 (Reply) (Comments won't nest below this level)

            It’s always hard to express the exact nuance of what you’re saying over the Internet.

            I know a contest mixed with learning motivates some people, probably most people, and that’s why Vic chose that format to teach people. I, and I’m probably in the minority in this, don’t find a contest conducive to learning so that’s why I decided to opt-out of the contest. I think that the competition will tend to outweigh the learning, particularly when you have people with highly competitive personalities involved.

      3. Pat on 28.05.2008 at 19:18 (Reply)

        Hey Justin, sorry, I commented on one of your posts because I happened to come across it. I did not realize that the comment might not be wanted. Feel free to delete it :)

  7. Justin Briggs on 28.05.2008 at 04:03 (Reply)

    What makes me laugh is the number of people who say “I’m in it for the knowledge, not to win”, but they sit around checking everyone’s sites.
    Everyone worries “omg people are building links already” or “omg people are posting”

    Seriously, wtf does the actions of anyone else have to do with your own success or learning?

    Stop wasting time worry about if others are posting or building links, and get to work.
    While you’re sitting around worrying what I’m doing, I’m out there getting more links.

  8. Denise on 28.05.2008 at 10:33 (Reply)

    I do not spend much time in the live chat, simply because I do not have time and I have issues with making connections with people.

    I admitted to commenting on peoples blogs and thought it would help people to get the spiders back to help index their sites. I did not know it was a bad idea.

    No I do not expect to win the competition or even to be able to afford to go to Vegas. This is not a blood sport for me. I hope to gain the correct knowledge to be able to get myself out of debt and hopefully live normally in my golden years.

    As some already know, I have people on my Skype and it is even hard for me to use that. I am just trying to pay it forward a little bit and no I do not have the knowledge that many have.

    Please remember we are all in different spaces here and please be a little tolerant of where we are at and where we come from.

    Well enough said, besides I have to go to work.

    Have a GREAT DAY!

    1. Justin Briggs on 28.05.2008 at 16:08 (Reply)

      Not sure if this was in reply to my comment. I’m not mentioning anyone in particular though with my comment. Certainly not you Denise.
      I just see a lot of general worry going on in the channel about people worrying about others linking too earlier, their link quantity, if they’re posting too earlier. I just think everyone is worrying too much. Like Vic says to us all “don’t over think things, just go get links”.

      And as always, I am not trying to be an ass, even if might come off that way via my text.

      And my way of doing things isn’t always the “right way”, just “my way”. All I said was: please don’t waste your time anchoring my own keywords on my post. Wasn’t trying to make a deal, just wanted to save people time.

  9. Chris Digital Products on 28.05.2008 at 12:43 (Reply)

    The way I look at the contest is it’s like college for blogging. This is like a final exam. For me there is no better learning than doing, and this contest fits the bill for me. I’m sure there’s still a mountain of information I can learn from vic.

    I doubt it will get ugly as the vast majority of folks here, in my opinion, are good natured friendly people.

    Let’s hope every last one of us makes some money and learns a few things.

  10. Paul B on 30.05.2008 at 12:10 (Reply)

    Hi Vic, quick question. Probably something youve been asked a million times before:) One of my sites has been slowly rising through the rankings for the last month, usually jumping down before going up. Few days ago it hit the #7 spot for the first time, then completely dissapeared. Im not really ranking for any of my keywords now, before when it went down i would be atleast on 2nd or 3rd page. So all types of things have been running though my head like the sites been banned for dup content or something or googles clearing out BANS sites. Am i being way to paranoid or is this just part of the process?

    Thanks Paul B

    1. Niche Blogging on 30.05.2008 at 19:39 (Reply)

      Paul,

      A couple of things, if your site is a new domain, you could be sandboxed depending upon how much traffic you get.

      Or, google results change all the time as they are constantly working on the search results. Give it a few hours to a couple of days. Much more beyond that and it’s probably sandboxed.

      1. Paul B on 31.05.2008 at 15:36 (Reply)

        True, thing is its an old domain so doesnt really make sense that its sandboxed? Someone said you can tell if youve been banned from google webmaster tools? Is that right? Thanks

  11. Terry Didcott on 30.05.2008 at 14:22 (Reply)

    Mmm, interesting. I’m in the same boat as Monika - I haven’t been able to watch any of the live broadcasts and I’m far too busy with my own work to be able to give this contest the time that it probably needs.

    Plus I don’t have adsense, so I guess that fucks my chances right up the arse so wtf!

    So knowing I can’t possibly win, I can relax and concentrate on getting some authority and learning what Vic’s teaching instead of worrying about all that other shit LMAO!!!

    Anyway, bueno suerte (good luck) to everyone!

    Terry

  12. Justin Briggs on 30.05.2008 at 20:15 (Reply)

    I saw your section of the video that talks briefly about everything going on with my comment I made. And I agree with you on many of the points you made. The reasons I feel this situation is slightly different is because we’re dealing with subdomains and he didn’t give me a good comment.

    I left a post in the contest forum about how Google treats subdomains. They reduce the likelihood that multiple subdomains can rank for one search result. So, since we’re on the same TLD, its a different situation. If they want to drop their link to their own TLD, than I’m cool with that. I had said “feel free to drop links to your personal site”
    I dropped this link in the forum:
    http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/.....rectories/

    Matt says: “For several years Google has used something called “host crowding,” which means that Google will show up to two results from each hostname/subdomain of a domain name. That approach works very well to show 1-2 results from a subdomain, but we did hear complaints that for some types of searches (e.g. esoteric or long-tail searches), Google could return a search page with lots of results all from one domain. In the last few weeks we changed our algorithms to make that less likely to happen in the future.”

    So, since we’re dealing with subdomains, I feel the rules are a little different.

    Lastly, the guy who dropped the comment left two sentences. So, I feel like it was obvious he was just trying to get a link and compete. He didn’t really give me enough content to make it worth it for me.

    And I agree that you need friends in this business. I hope my comments didn’t made people think I’m selfish, because that isn’t the case. I’m join forces all day long outside of these competition blogs. When you deal with subdomains you’re dealing with limited slots. The success of one subdoman hinders the success of another. If we’re dealing with TLD’s, your success won’t hinder mine so much and we can work together.

    I hope that helps clarify my reasons.

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